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The following is the abstract of the article discussed in the subsequent letter:
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Cassin, S., and A. M. Perks. Estimation of lung liquid production in fetal sheep with blue dye
dextran and radioiodinated serum albumin. J Appl
Physiol 92: 1531-1538, 2002;
10.1152/japplphysiol.00777.2001.
Lung liquid production and
reabsorption rates and lung volumes were measured in 99 fetal sheep
(119-148 days of gestation) by indicator-dilution methods with the
simultaneous use of blue dye dextran (BDD) and radioiodinated serum
albumin (RISA). There were no significant differences between rates of
lung liquid production or reabsorption by the two methods
(n = 71 pairs; paired t-test; Wilcoxon test; ANOVA); this was equally true for rates in milliliters per hour or
milliliters per kilogram body weight per hour and was independent of
age. Volumes measured by both methods showed a close linear relationship (r = 0.97; for slope P < 0.0001; n = 99), whether expressed as milliliters or
milliliters per kilogram body weight. Either method could give the
higher volume. Values differed by only ~4%, independent of age or
parameter (ml or ml/kg body wt; volumes regressed to original volume,
or as measured in untreated control hours). However, this small
difference was significant by paired t-test or Wilcoxon test
when all data were combined irrespective of age; it was not significant
after allowance for gestational age (two-way ANOVA). Both indicators
showed the same increase in lung volume toward birth and the same fall
when related to body weight (slopes significant P = 0.0003-0.0004; r = 0.93). Two-way ANOVA showed
that the declines were significant (P = 0.003). The
data suggest that 1) there was no significant difference in production or reabsorption rates measured by BDD or RISA, 2)
differences in volumes measured by the two indicators were only
significant if gestational age was ignored and were too small to have
physiological importance, and 3) although BDD and RISA each
may have methodological weaknesses, for purposes of measuring lung
liquid volumes both are sufficiently accurate and reproducible to
obtain meaningful physiological results.
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LETTER |
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To the Editor: The issue of appropriate tracer molecules for use in dye-dilution determination of lung liquid volume and secretion rate in the fetal lung is under debate. We recently reported an experimental study comparing blue dextran (BD) and radioiodinated serum albumin (RISA) (4). We found large errors associated with the use of BD, making estimates of lung liquid volume derived from BD unreliable, especially in near-term fetuses. By contrast, we found only small errors when RISA is used alone as a tracer. Cassin and Perks (1) have responded with the results of a retrospective analysis of their earlier work. They present evidence that, when BD and RISA are used simultaneously, lung liquid volumes and secretion rates derived from the two tracers do not differ significantly.
As an introductory comment, we wholeheartedly agree with Cassin and Perks (1) that both BD and RISA have aided our understanding of mechanisms and dynamics of liquid movement across the fetal pulmonary epithelium. We accept that BD can be used to detect relative changes in the rate and direction of lung liquid flow. If, however, it is important to determine absolute values for volume and secretion, we maintain that the choice of tracer is of crucial importance. This view is based on our observation that, when we used repeated saline washes to retrieve BD from the lung, the predictable exponential decline in BD concentration was observed in successive washes. When no further BD could be retrieved with saline washout, a 5% albumin wash retrieved a large amount of BD, and the concentration of BD in subsequent 5% albumin washes fell exponentially toward zero. No explanation, other than BD binding, can account for these observations. Consequently, lung liquid volume is overestimated when BD is used as the tracer. Because secretion rate is estimated from the rate of change in volume, it will also be overestimated.
Cassin and Perks (1) have not repeated the washout experiments that we performed to test for binding of BD. However, they take reassurance from their finding that, when BD and RISA are used together, estimates of volume and secretion derived from the two tracers are statistically indistinguishable (1). We contend that no such reassurance can be drawn from their observation. If, as we have shown, BD and RISA both bind to the epithelium when they are used together (4), volume and secretion must be overestimated with both tracers. Clearly, no inference can be drawn from their observation about the correctness of estimates derived from BD and RISA if they were to be used separately.
Our evaluation of BD and RISA as tracer molecules provides a plausible explanation for why several reports involving BD have claimed that lung liquid volume rises continuously over the last days of gestation (3), whereas studies that use RISA report a fall (2, 5). The important consequence of our evidence, which shows RISA as a reliable tracer in the late gestation fetal sheep lung and BD as not, is that we can confidently conclude that events occurring over the last days of gestation, as well as mechanisms initiated during labor, play a crucial role in reducing the amount of liquid contained in the lung, thereby facilitating pulmonary gas exchange immediately after delivery.
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REFERENCES |
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1.
Cassin, S,
and
Perks AM.
Estimation of lung liquid production in fetal sheep with blue dye dextran and radioiodinated serum albumin.
J Appl Physiol
92:
1531-1538,
2002
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Pfister, RE,
Ramsden CA,
Neil H,
Kyriakides MA,
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Berger PJ.
Comparison of radioiodinated serum albumin and blue dextran for estimating lung liquid volume in fetal lambs.
J Appl Physiol
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Pfister, RE,
Ramsden CA,
Neil HL,
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Volume and secretion rate of lung liquid in the final days of gestation and labour in the fetal sheep.
J Physiol
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Riccardo E. Pfister, Mary A. Kyriakides, Philip J. Berger Ritchie Centre for Baby Health Research Monash Institute of Reproduction and Development Monash University Clayton, Victoria 3168, Australia E-mail: philip.berger{at}med.monash.edu.au | ||||||||||||
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C. Andrew Ramsden Newborn Services Monash Medical Centre Clayton, Victoria 3168, Australia |
To the Editor: In their letter, Pfister et al.
suggested that volumes of lung liquid estimated by blue dye dextran
(BDD) are unreliable in near-term fetal sheep. This suggestion is based on the fact that these investigators could wash dye out of the lungs
with albumin solutions after saline appeared to have cleared them. In
an attempt to clarify this matter, we (1) reexamined large numbers of
experiments to look for discrepancies when BDD and radioiodinated serum
albumin (RISA) were used concurrently. We found that there were no
significant differences between the two tracers in measuring rates of
fluid production, reabsorption, lung volumes, and changes in volumes
approaching term. These agreements were shown in large numbers of
experiments (71 production rates, 99 original volumes), making it
difficult to reject these data. However, in their letter, Pfister et
al. do not accept our conclusions. They claim that both indicators bind
to lung epithelium if they are used simultaneously, yet, in their
experiments, lung washes appeared to liberate only BDD. They suggest
that there can be no explanation for this other than the binding of BDD
to the epithelium. We believe that there are other explanations for
their data. First, there were marked differences in the methodology by
which they and we added BDD to the lungs. In our experiments, BDD was
added to the lung liquid as a solution. BDD was dissolved in saline at
39°C with vigorous stirring for at least 1 h. The solution was
then filtered before it was added to the lung liquid. In contrast, Pfister et al. added powdered BDD directly to the lung liquid. If small
undissolved particles persisted in the lung liquid, these could be
engulfed by mucus or monocytes in the lungs or bronchi and become
dislodged by final vigorous washing with albumin solution. It was
implied that BDD could attach to proteins so albumin could extract it.
However, BDD is covalently linked to dextran (1). Second, Pfister et
al. did not add BDD and RISA to the lung liquid at the same time. BDD
was present alone in the early hours of their experiments. It is known
that groups of alveoli may open and close during experiments. This
would have little effect on the apparent production rates and volumes
because both fluid and tracer are trapped in proportional amounts. If
pockets formed during the early hours of Pfister's experiments, when
only BDD was present, the heavy washing at the end of their experiments could have liberated free BDD. In younger fetuses, where even Pfister
et al. found good agreement between BDD and RISA, the activity of the
alveoli probably had not yet started.
We disagree with Pfister et al. on another point as well. An incorrect
estimate of total volumes does not necessarily result in incorrect
estimates of lung liquid production rates. The attachment of tracer to
some surfaces might alter the volume, but the increment of volume as a
function of time could still be useful in estimating production rates.
Finally, in nine early pilot experiments, we added known volumes of
fluid to the fetal lungs by syringe, and the changes in volume were
assessed by BDD. The volumes measured by syringe differed from those
measured by BDD by only 3.2 ± 7.0% (SD).
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FOOTNOTES |
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10.1152/japplphysiol.00872.2002
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REFERENCES |
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1.
Cassin, S,
and
Perks AM.
Estimation of lung liquid production in fetal sheep with blue dye dextran and radioiodinated serum albumin.
J Appl Physiol
92:
1531-1538,
2002.
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S. Cassin Department of Physiology University of Florida College of Medicine Gainesville, Florida 32610 E-mail: scassin{at}phys.med.ufl.edu | ||||||||||||
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A. M. Perks Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology University of British Columbia Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada V6H 3V5 |
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